X-men 4

[Carnage]

Halle Berry won an award at the people's choice awards this weekend and she stated that if you want an X-men 4 that you have to write a letter to Tom Rothman, this is a summary from xmenfilms.net about what she said:

"I had no idea you guys loved Storm so much! Wow, thank you, thank you. And I want to thank Tom Rothman for allowing me to play Storm, and Brett Ratner for allowing Storm to finally use her cape and fly this year." said Halle Berry at yesterday's People's Choice Awards.

"But I have something to ask you guys. You guys really love X-Men? Ok, here's what you have to do. Write letters. Every one of you in this building who love X-Men and want to see X-Men 4, write a letter to Tom Rothman at Fox and tell him so and you will get another one, and I'll be there too."

You can write or e-mail 20th Century Fox regarding X4 at:

20th Century Fox Theatricals
ATTN: Tom Rothman (X-Men 4)
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, CA 90213-0900
[e-mail]
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I'm thinking about writing a letter but I'm gonna ask if they can change the director and the writers. Bret Ratner didn't do as good of a job as Singer did (IMO) and the writing was no where near as good as the previous movies (IMO). It's not like their going to read it, they just wanna see how many letters they get.

[comicfreak]

i;m gonna write them but i want them to keep brett ratner. singer isn't as great plus he's too busy ruining superman. singer's movies weren't great. he made more mistakes then ratner. but ratner had more x-men cameos and more action. i want them to put in apocolypse so angel can have a bigger part and turn into archangel.

[Carnage]

I need more story than action and I did like how they had the cameos but some just felt thrown in at the last moment and the movie overall was rushed. To me, the character development means more than making it a hit blockbuster, which is why Singer appeals to me more. He centered the movies on the characters not just what was going on in the movie. I hate to say it but there was almost no feeling in X3. Professor X died and no one seemed bothered, and than at the end when Logan kills Jean there was almost no emoition in the dailog. Bret Ratner is not the worst director but he is by far not the right person for the job of making an X-men movie. I'd love if they could get Peter Jackson to direct it but I doubt that will happen. By the way, you can't fit the entire history of the x-men in a movie so some of those mistakes were needed because it's impossible to get it right and Singer is not to blame for them because he wasn't the one who wrote it. Thats why I didn't like X3 because the writers seemed to be more interested in action then dialog and character development.

[comicfreak]

i thought the story was great. professor x dyeing was great. of course he's coming back though and he dies in the comics so why would anyone be bothered. and the dialogue was good between wolverine and jean. what did u want some sort of romeo and juliet sequence? she's killing everyone. do u really have enough time to take out some drama? X-men 3 was by far the best x-men movie ever. and singer already announced he's done with x-men. he's now doing superman. if u ask me ratner did a better job.

[Carnage]

The movie didn't have drama or any feeling, it was simply action and some more action. Fox tried to fill the fan's requests and they did but I love movies more than I do comics and as a movie lover/critic it was poorly made. You love comics more than I do and this movie filled that place of wanting you had for the movie to be exactly like it's comic counterpart, so you lean over to liking it more. But I am veiwing X3 as if it were any other movie and out of all the movies I've seen it seemed the most rushed and least developed. A movie needs drama or else the characters aren't realistic and if they're not realistic then the movie suffers.

[t0xin_ven0m]

By the way, I'm planning on posting this article on the website, so do you care if I just copy and paste what you wrote Carnage?

[Carnage]

I don't care. I copy and pasted it anyway.(except for the bottom part of course)

[comicfreak]

there was drama in the movie. professor x died. there can't be drama between logan and jean cause she's too busy killing people. logan had to stop her so instead of doing the whole romantic thing he just says he loves her and kills her. the longer he talks, the more people that are gonna die.

[Carnage]

Now refresh my memory but didn't Logan say that he was going to help her? Then he kills her with almost no emoition, doesn't matter if in the movie they didn't have time but they could've thrown something more in and then afterwards Logan doesn't seem to resent his decion. You know comicfreak you are one hard moherf**cker, you never sway from your opinion, I like that. I like our little debates too, your cool in my book.

[comicfreak]

um thanks i guess. and logan did say he was gonna help her. but the prof is dead so who can cage the pheonix? no one. killing someone and setting them free from something like the pheonix is helping her. so she doesn't have the guilt of harming people.

[Carnage]

Yeah, but they could have helped her by teaching her to go on with her life. The way Professor X died is fine with me but she killed him without remorse, he was her mentor and almost like a father to her. Even if it was the second personality doing it she could've tried to break through and stop herself, she wasn't totaly oblivious to what Pheonix was doing. Thats another thing, I didn't like the whole split personality bit, it just confused me. I'd understand it more if they did the whole cosmic Phoenix thing but I guess it was okay the way they did it, somethings have to be sacrificed. I just hope they have Apocalypse in this movie and take their time because, you have to admit, X3 was rushed. It came out almost right after they filmed it. For a well made film it usaly takes 5-6 months to film and another 6 months to edit & do the CGI, but X3 only had a little over 3 months to film and the normal amount of time to edit & do CGI. They rushed it because Fox more worried about getting it out in the same year and keeping the stars/cast on their regular filming schedule. Which is dumb on their part because they should've booked the cast sooner so there wouldn't be any complications in schedules.

[comicfreak]

i didn't think it was that rushed. sure it was an hour and 30 minutes but thats normally how long movies are. the CGI was great in the movie anyway. i liked it when iceman became ice form. that was pretty good CGI. i wonder if apocolypse will be CGI or a man in a suit. probably a man in a suit.

[Carnage]

Well, it matters how much of him their gonna show. If they're gonna have a battle royale at the end of the movie and that's the only time you see him then he'll be CGI. But if he makes appearances throughout the entire movie then an actor will probaly have to where a suit because to do CGI costs more money & takes more time.

[comicfreak]

yeah plus suits make actors wanna quit like the nightcrawler guy. so either way your screwed on movies. i think X3 would have been much better if nightcrawler was in it. who do u think would play apocolypse. my money is on micheal clark duncan. if u paint him blue, he's got that look.

[Carnage]

I don't know thats a tough choice but Duncan is in the right direction. To bad he's Kingpin, if wasn't I'd say he's a perfect choice. I think Christopher Walken would rock as Apoclypse or maybe Chuck Norris.j/k

[comicfreak]

ur joking about christopher walken too right? he doesn't have that look nor the voice.

[Carnage]

Yeah, just joking.

[PMD]

Does anyone know what the storyline of X-Men 4 is gonna be?
I think they're introducing Emma Frost and Stacy X. I'm hoping for the return of Nightcrawler.

[comicfreak]

i heard it was gonna be more around the sentinals or apocolypse but that just a rumor i found.

[PMD]

Yeah the sentinels would be deadly. But you know how they had a sentinel in the Danger Room. How they gonna explain that?