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Post by Beany on Nov 3, 2006 12:28:43 GMT -5
Not ICARUS!
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 3, 2006 13:08:04 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry to say. Stryker even mocked Icarus right before he shot him, claiming credit for the attack towards his family in the arc that introduced Icarus (and in which his true love died).
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Post by comicfreak on Nov 3, 2006 17:22:09 GMT -5
stryker is a real character? wow i didn't no that. i thought he was made for the movie.
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 4, 2006 9:12:12 GMT -5
No, reverand William Stryker first appeared in the X-Men graphic novel God Loves Man Kills. Then, I believe on the pages of Uncanny X-Men, in the arc God Loves Man Kills 2, he appeared again, and finally died on the pages of New X-Men.
But other than their hatred for mutants, there is barely nothing in common for the two people using the same name.
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Post by WANDERINGJD on Nov 4, 2006 21:34:39 GMT -5
now that's some wierd trivia
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 5, 2006 16:56:27 GMT -5
Well, this kind of trivia is everywhere related to comics, just look at all the "cameo's" found in the X-Men movies. Dozens of mutants appear only shortly, and it's a big thing for the fans that recognise them.
So, who else has gone missing?
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Post by Beany on Nov 5, 2006 17:11:24 GMT -5
Aww man. I like the Guthries... Well, except for Paige. She annoys me.
Do you have any info about Jono/Chamber Ouchie?
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Post by comicfreak on Nov 5, 2006 22:49:18 GMT -5
o how about deacon frost? did blade finally kill him?
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Post by WANDERINGJD on Nov 5, 2006 23:32:27 GMT -5
Jeez i hope so
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 6, 2006 10:07:29 GMT -5
My Midnight Sons related info is rather limited, so I don't have info about that.
Jono was depowered on M-Day, and was kept in a machine created by Beast for him to survive. Apocalypse's former clan, the Clan Akkaba (who was still running, even though Apocalypse himself thought that he'd disbanded the group after a confrontation with Dracula). They captured Jono, and since he's a descendant of Apocalypse himself (like all members of Clan Akkaba are), they used their devices to bring back Jono. It's not yet shown as to the nature of his current powers, but his skin is grey, and he has red eyes, and the big whole is his chest is gone. He left Clan Akkaba, but didn't join the new Excalibur team. This all happened in New Excalibur #09.
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Post by Beany on Nov 6, 2006 10:30:41 GMT -5
Coolies. Thanks Ouchmaker.
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Post by comicfreak on Nov 6, 2006 10:42:12 GMT -5
dracula? i thought blade killed him a long time ago like in the 70's or 80's with Whistler aka Quincy Harper (they changed his name to whistler don't know why). i know there was an Apocolypse vs Dracula series but i thought that took place like before even captain america appeared since they r the first super powered beings born.
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 6, 2006 12:04:01 GMT -5
In the Apocalypse vs. Dracula series the beginning of the story takes place a long time ago, in 1459 when the Vlad the Impaler first meets with the Riders of the Dark (of Clan Akkaba), and is beaten by War of the same group.
Then the story skips a few centuries to 1897, when a mysterious killer is killing members of the Clan Akkaba. This time Dracula manages to kill most members of Clan Akkaba (or turn them into vampires), before Apocalypse kills him. So Dracula has been killed quite a few times, it just so happens that he has aknack for always coming back, which is why Blade managed to do it later on.
This mini also revealed the Apocalypse bloodline connection to atleast two X-Men related mutants, Jono and Claire, AKA Chamber and Blink.
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Post by comicfreak on Nov 6, 2006 14:43:35 GMT -5
wow apocolypse has kids. u'd think apocolypse would like know that. but i still don't understand. how did dracula come back? does he have some sort of healing power?
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 6, 2006 15:12:59 GMT -5
I have no idea. I believe that he could be a universal creature, unless the whole planet is destroyed with him on it, he's going to come back from the dead, or he really can't be killed. I mean killed so that he can't come back.
Apocalypse has always known that he has children, but he ordered the Clan Akkaba to be disbanded after they were nearly annihilated by Dracula. And since Ozymandias finally betrayed him after their last encounter with the X-Men (that caused Apocalypse to go with the Celestials), their roads have parted since. And since Ozymandias has always been around during those periods of time when Apocalypse himself has slept, he's most likely done a lot of little things that Apocalypse doesn't know about. Or he knows, but doesn't reveal it to Ozymandias.
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Post by WANDERINGJD on Nov 6, 2006 15:42:35 GMT -5
well my theory on dracula is there's more then one to begin with, then for each day they sleep in the soil of his homeland he gets another death he can come back from, otherwise why would he cart that dirt everywhere?
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Post by comicfreak on Nov 6, 2006 18:51:22 GMT -5
what happened to callisto? i haven't seen her since some of my 90's issues.
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Post by t0xin_ven0m on Nov 6, 2006 19:26:18 GMT -5
She's in the most recent Excalibur series. It was a 14 issue series, it had a lot to do with Genosha & House Of M. Excalibur, not New Excalibur.
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Post by Ouchmaker on Nov 7, 2006 10:37:11 GMT -5
She was seen in the X-Treme X-Men, and her hands were transformed by Masque for revenge. But she came rather adept in using them. She was with Charles and Magneto on Genosha before House of M. Callisto was one of the depowered mutants on M-Day. Quicksilver used the Terrigen Mists to give her her powers back, but they were seriously amplified (raindrops felt like daggers on her skin). That's the last time she was seen. Since the effects of the Terrigen Mists are random at best, it's not sure if she still suffers from the effects. If she does, then she's being treated for them in a secret location.
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Post by comicfreak on Nov 7, 2006 19:32:44 GMT -5
wow thanks for the info.
another question, what happened to Absorbing Man? the latest i saw him was in 2000 in an issue of Thor.
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