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Feb 14, 2007 15:34:23 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Feb 14, 2007 15:34:23 GMT -5
Since my Bleach topic was rather dead, I thought about asking a more general question. Since most animes are based on japanese manga, this would be the appropriate place to post.
So, who's into anime? movies, series? What have you watched or seen, what did you like about them? Or do you have a distaste for anime (usually something caused by bad dubbing instead of the anime itself).
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Feb 14, 2007 16:34:04 GMT -5
Post by Carnage on Feb 14, 2007 16:34:04 GMT -5
I don't dispise Anime/Manga but don't like that stuff either. Some of it I like. I used to watch Dragon BallZ and Ghost in the Shell was pretty good, I liked Big O & Guyver too. But I don't like reading that crap, sometimes you have to read it backwards and it just confuses me. I hate how Manga is more popular here in america rather than regular ole' comicbooks, though comic fans are on the rise again because of the films that have released in the past few years. It's realy stupid that kids today like it more when people in china & japan stole the idea from americans, afterall it is an american art form & kids these days don't appreciate that.
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Feb 14, 2007 18:12:04 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Feb 14, 2007 18:12:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't consider it as stealing, per se. While it's true that after WWII Japan had american comic book artists "teach" them how to draw their own comic books, I have to point out that this was just a modernisation. The origin of manga goes back to the 18th century, which I believe is part of the charm in manga comics. They have unique stories to tell, and eastern look on the world is so different, that you can't compare american comic books with manga. Atleast you shouldn't. It's like comparing the first appearance of Superman with Alan Moore's Watchmen. Yes, they use the same form of storytelling, but the actual stories and artwork can't be compared.
To me, the charm of manga and anime comes from the basics. The excellent use of ancient mythology, and non-traditional storytelling is really compelling. An anime can be about a constant battle, filled with mechs/gundams, but the message of the story can be very anti-war, with importance to the bonds of friendship. And often there is no real villainy in japanese manga or anime, it's all about the point of view.
What is the shame in today's world, is the simple fact that some people don't mind putting words like cartoon, comic strip, comic book, animation, anime, manga, and graphic novel, and just call them all comics. There are distinctive differences between them, and any self-respecting human being should know the difference.
But back to the point, which is the animation. I hope my words don't come off as too strong, but my firm belief is that american animations (apart from big budjet movies) don't come even close to the level of artwork seen in japanese anime. It comes off as stiff and pale. And any use of cgi usually mages the difference between cgi and normal animations that more clearer. Which is a shame.
Dragonball Z is an good series, even though it's a little too long, some episodes seem to be simple fillers, and sometimes the artwork suffers. Naruto is another series that has suffered from the use of fillers. 220 episodes and counting, Naruto has had fillers for the past 85 episodes. As of this Thursday, there won't be any fillers anymore, which is a good thing. However, Bleach, standing with a little over hundred episodes has managed to survive the excessive use of filler episodes.
Ghost in the Shell, much like Akira it's a great story, and given that GitS is 11 and Akira an amazing 19 years old, they are still both worthy of atleast one watch. To me, these movies were what Advent Children is to the animation kids of today.
As for the anime I used earlier, it's called Gundam Seed, which is a nice story told in fifty episodes. It has had a sequel, Gundam Seed Destiny, which continues to story, but stands rather well on it's own as well.
But most really good animes are told in either 12-13 episodes, or around 20 episodes, which to me is a good thing. This way it can tell a precise story, without starting to drag. Hellsing, Trigun, and others are good examples of that.
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Feb 14, 2007 23:01:08 GMT -5
Post by Carnage on Feb 14, 2007 23:01:08 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I liked Gundam too, must have slipped my mind. I liked the series where all there was a competition between Gundams, I liked it because it was different from the other series. (I think it was G-Gundam, but I'm not sure about that.)
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Feb 15, 2007 13:21:07 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Feb 15, 2007 13:21:07 GMT -5
I've only seen Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny, and parts of Gundam Wing, and Gundam: 8th Mobile Suit Team. But I like the idea. Always liked mechs, and Gndams are more personal, the ones that change shapes between the robot and a jet make me think of Transformers, in a good way.
But most animes do have so pretty original ideas, or interesting variations. Bleach has the Shinigami, who are basically spirit ninjas, who make sure that souls get to heaven. In the anime Kiba, people can control spirits, and even though this sounds bad, but it has a pokemon/digimon feel to it, but it's actually very good, and has a more adult orientated content. Then there's Full Metal Alchemist, which makes a nice spin to magic with alchemy. Best part about these series is the unpredictability., Of course you can tell who the main character is, but often you see allies turn into the enemy, and many unexpected turns and twists, which is really entertaining.
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Feb 15, 2007 17:43:46 GMT -5
Post by t0xin_ven0m on Feb 15, 2007 17:43:46 GMT -5
I used to watch DBZ and Pokemon, lol. I'm getting the Witchblade Manga comics that they are coming out with as well. Anime isn't really a favorite of mine, but I do enjoy some of it. I'm really looking forward to the Aphrodite IX movie that they are coming out with as well, I think it's supposed to be anime. The comics are awesome...drawn by my favorite David Finch
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Feb 21, 2007 18:33:35 GMT -5
Post by comicfreak on Feb 21, 2007 18:33:35 GMT -5
can't say i'm an anime fan. i like the american stuff. anime just seems way to annoying what with the face expressions and all.
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Mar 27, 2007 11:04:45 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Mar 27, 2007 11:04:45 GMT -5
Currently, I'm mainly following Bleach. Of course Naruto as well, but just so I will keep up with the story. But then there are the other series that have come before, and those are the ones I'm checking on little by little.
For instance Initial D, which has a low grade compared to the level of graphics used, but the story, and the music is very interesting, telling the story of a tofu store owner's son, driwing a Toyota Trueno (AE86), a decade old car and still beating all the new racers with their Lancer Evo's.
Then there's RahXephon, which has a bizarre story, similar to the one seen in Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Kiba, a 51 episode story with a decent storyline. Similarities may be found with shows like Pokémon, seen as the main characters possess the ability to use spirits as weapons, but it's aimed at a more adult viewer group. People actually die in the story, and everything doesn't end happily.
Finally, there's Death Note, which is really an insane story. It looks amazing, and has a very psychological feel to it. Once again, a shinigami (this time shinigamis are scary looking demons) is involved. Each shinigami has a Death Note, a black notebook, which they use in their job. The Death Note has a deadly power. If someone is thinking of the face of someone they've met or seen, and writes the name of that person on the Death Note, after ten seconds that person will die of a heart attack. However, the writer has additional 40 seconds to write the cause of death if the writers isn't satisfied with just a heart attack. And the story begins, when a shinigami "accidentally" loses his Death Note in the real world. The Death Note falls to the hands of a student, who decides to use the Death Note to kill all the evil people from the world. Of course when over 50 people all over the world suddenly die of a heart attack, all of them criminals, hiding from the police or in prison waiting for their death sentence, it gains the attention of another "vigilante" known by law agencies around the world as L, the hunt begins. Light (nickname of the person with the Death Note) can't kill L, because his face is never seen by anyone, and L has no clues as to who is the killer, nicknamed Kira. So now we have Light/Kira, almost insane for the power in his hands, L the other vigilante, the shinigami who's just waiting to see how things work out this time (he's "lost" the Death Note before, often the normal humans with the notebook don't last too long, because they make mistakes, or something else happens to them).
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Mar 27, 2007 13:54:18 GMT -5
Post by t0xin_ven0m on Mar 27, 2007 13:54:18 GMT -5
I'm kinda interested in seeing that Kiba, that sounds like it's really good. Also, I'm really looking forward to the Aphrodite IX movie they are going to be putting out soon!
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Mar 27, 2007 17:16:30 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Mar 27, 2007 17:16:30 GMT -5
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Mar 30, 2007 16:42:20 GMT -5
Post by Beany on Mar 30, 2007 16:42:20 GMT -5
I like anime and manga. For me, I just see it as another cartoon and book.
I've watched Pokémon, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Beyblades, Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, Fruits Basket, Cardcaptors and Dragonball Z. I've only seen the whole seasons of Fruits Basket, Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop though. Oh and Zoids! I forgot I used to watch Zoids. Heh ^_^;; I've also watched a few episodes of Wolf's Rain and Full Metal Alchemist.
As far as movies go, I've seen Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle, Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbour Totoro, Street Fighter II, Street Fighter Alpha, Cowboy Bebop: The Movie and another Studio Ghibli one which I'm not quite sure how to spell.
I own the first four volumes in Fruits Basket the manga. I really liked the show, it was so cute.
Yeah, I think that's my list. I used to have access to anime and things on television but not so much now and DVDs and manga are quite expensive so I can't really buy what I want.
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Apr 3, 2007 14:39:03 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Apr 3, 2007 14:39:03 GMT -5
My Neighbour Totoro is an amazing movie. Really makes you think outside the box, because both, the cat-bus and Totoro himself are pretty unique characters.
Beany, I think you would like shows like Bleach and Kiba, Bleach being like the mature version of Dragonball Z (with spirit ninjas), whereas Kiba being the mature version of Pokémon/Digimon (with people actually dying). Both of them with better graphics and story.
I'm so hooked on Death Note right now, it's so dark and twisted, reaching borderline insanity.
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Jul 3, 2007 13:18:54 GMT -5
Post by Beany on Jul 3, 2007 13:18:54 GMT -5
Hmm, I'll check it out if I get the chance. A new channel has started and they show anime for two hours per week. Although I keep missing them.
Looking back at my list, I thought I'd mention I watched the first four episodes of GTO. I also got more manga. Hooray! Got two more volumes of Fruits Basket and the first volumes of Cowboy Bebop and GTO.
Also, HOLY CRAP! It's raining so hard!
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Jul 4, 2007 15:37:42 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Jul 4, 2007 15:37:42 GMT -5
GTO is pretty insane, you can never really figure that guy. Always has something up his sleeves.
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Jul 4, 2007 18:12:33 GMT -5
Post by Beany on Jul 4, 2007 18:12:33 GMT -5
Lol, he is! I love the fact that the intro starts with him flushing a toilet. I laugh every time I see that!
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Jul 5, 2007 6:11:01 GMT -5
Post by t0xin_ven0m on Jul 5, 2007 6:11:01 GMT -5
I read that the Witchblade anime is coming to dvd Sept. 25 this year. Also, they've announced that a Xenosaga anime will be coming out here as well. Then after that Devil May Cry will have one also, this one I'm really looking forward to, I love DMC.
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Dec 12, 2007 14:29:40 GMT -5
Post by Beany on Dec 12, 2007 14:29:40 GMT -5
And Beany said, "Let there be life" and posted a reply to a dead topic.
So since I last posted, I've watched loads of anime because *whoop, holler* I now have a channel dedicated to showing anime. Hoorays!
Due to the existance of such a wonder, I was able to watch the complete series of Fullmetal Alchemist (have yet to see the movie though) and Wolf's Rain. Although, I found out yesterday that the last four episodes weren't aired. I guess I'll have to catch them when I get the series on DVD.
I got a chance to watch Cowboy Bebop all over again which was awesome. I've also got the first volume in the manga series. For anybody that is thinking about getting the Cowboy Bebop manga, I wouldn't advise you to do so. It's not very good.
I've also been exposed to the first 52 episodes of Bleach and OMFG, it's bags full of awesome. I am very much in love with Bleach.
I'm not watching any anime at the moment but soon enough, I'm going to be exposed to such things such as Witch Hunter Robin (I think that is what it's called) and some other weird sounding one.
So yeah, that's about it.
Ouchie, how goes it on the anime/manga front with you? Managed to catch anything new?
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Dec 12, 2007 22:46:33 GMT -5
Post by deadpool155 on Dec 12, 2007 22:46:33 GMT -5
i dont really watch anime, i read only two mangas and it's bleach and naruto (to me the naruto manga is so much more better then the anime espcially the one on cartoon network, if you call that an anime) it does get kind of confusing reading backwards but you get kind of use to it (sort of). the only thing that i found weird when i first read naruto is that we have 12 year kids atacking each other with sharp objects and explosives (dont forget about that poison) lol.
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Dec 13, 2007 17:46:23 GMT -5
Post by Ouchmaker on Dec 13, 2007 17:46:23 GMT -5
And Beany said, "Let there be life" and posted a reply to a dead topic. So since I last posted, I've watched loads of anime because *whoop, holler* I now have a channel dedicated to showing anime. Hoorays! Due to the existance of such a wonder, I was able to watch the complete series of Fullmetal Alchemist (have yet to see the movie though) and Wolf's Rain. Although, I found out yesterday that the last four episodes weren't aired. I guess I'll have to catch them when I get the series on DVD. I got a chance to watch Cowboy Bebop all over again which was awesome. I've also got the first volume in the manga series. For anybody that is thinking about getting the Cowboy Bebop manga, I wouldn't advise you to do so. It's not very good. I've also been exposed to the first 52 episodes of Bleach and OMFG, it's bags full of awesome. I am very much in love with Bleach. I'm not watching any anime at the moment but soon enough, I'm going to be exposed to such things such as Witch Hunter Robin (I think that is what it's called) and some other weird sounding one. So yeah, that's about it. Ouchie, how goes it on the anime/manga front with you? Managed to catch anything new? You really know how to make a dead thread alive, I'll give you that. Just like I said, I knew you'd enjoy Bleach. And it gets better. The next storyline after the Soul Society is a storyline that didn't exist in the manga, so it doesn't offer anything too spectacular, but the storyline after that will blow your socks off. The anime is currently on episode 152, and the manga is about 30-50 anime episodes in the future. Bleach Openings 1-6: youtube.com/watch?v=RvX-2hDHiSwThe current Bleach Opening (7th): youtube.com/watch?v=ic78LqkvtOchope you like them. Haven't really found anything new: The only show I'm currently watching as new is Mobile Suit Gundam 00, which is pretty good: Basic storyline: youtube.com/watch?v=5M0JIknFKiUOpening and Ending: youtube.com/watch?v=vgpzn2HBYHMI've gone through shows like Trinity Blood (mixes vampires and aliens), and other shows, but they haven't been anything spectacular. Death Note was great, even though it's very dark and twisted. Then there's shows like Reideen and Bokurano, I've seen only the first episode of both of them, Reideen seemed a bit too cold for my taste, and haven't had time to indulge myself with Bokurano. Then there's a show called Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, which was hilarious, but I haven't managed to get more episodes to watch, so I don't know how good it gets after the first episode. There's also shows that I haven't mentioned, like Onegai Teacher and Onegai Twins, which are rather romantic in nature. Also, they had a competition in Japan (2004?), where they gave the appearances of the characters, but asked for people to write the stories and the personalities to go with them. They then took the best two, and made them into animes: Futakoi and Futakoi Alternative. Both of them are harem-comedies, but Futakoi Aletnative is definitely the better one of the two. Alternative tells about this young kid who works as a private detective, and one day is asked by a girl to find her twin by the end of the day. Well, eventually he finds her, and both of the twins end up working with the kid. Kid has feelings for both of the twins, and both of the twins have feelings for the kid... Add a weird alien that can be hurt only by a metal baseball bat, twin daughters of the head of the mafia family who secretly work to destroy their crime-filled lives, and other crazy people. I also got interested in a show called Kenichi, which seemed weird at first, but you kinda get attached to the protagonist. I speed-watched the show, just in time to watch the final episode when it came out. Not sure if the story continues, but atleast the 50+ episodes that I watched were good, funny moments, often on the expense of the protagonist.
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Dec 14, 2007 5:13:05 GMT -5
Post by Beany on Dec 14, 2007 5:13:05 GMT -5
I heard Death Note was very much in the awesome category when it comes to anime. Two of my friends really love it but I have yet to check it out.
There is another anime I came across on another channel which had to be the weirdest one that I've seen. It felt as though the main character (or who I thought was the main character) was on drugs. She was just speaking nonsense. I haven't a clue as to what it was called though.
I'm still on the Soul Society arc when it comes to Bleach. I'm waiting for more dubbed episodes to be released and hoping I get at least one manga volume for Christmas. I like the show but I have to say the filler episodes kill me. There has been at least two filler episodes so far and man, when I watched them it felt as if the life was just draining out of me. Don Kanoji(sp?) is just the most annoying character I've ever come across.
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